50 users v 1 editor

Here’s some more food for thought: according to PaidContent.org, it takes 50 votes from 140,000 or so digg users to get a story onto the digg front page. This got me to thinking about a key difference between “participatory media” sites like digg.com and, as it were, “directed media” sites like Guardian Unlimited (or indeed any newspaper site). On digg, obviously, the community decides what goes on the front page. On GU, the editor does.

But let’s break those concepts down a little. The PaidContent stat seems to imply that, actually, the community doesn’t decide what goes on the front of digg. Actually, a very small, statistically almost insignificant number of individuals decide (some 0.035%) that a particular story goes on there. Of course, it’s not the same 0.035% for each story, and I’d be interested to know the percentage of diggers who regularly post stories. Because this number is quite so small, it’s hard to accurately say “the community says this story is important.” It’s a bit like saying “the record buying public thinks the current number one song is great” at a time when single sales are in freefall.

Another point about this: digg.com is obviously not the only “participatory media” site out there. Its 140,000 users also use other sites (Slashdot, for example), while there are millions of other users who don’t use digg at all. The number of people “participating” is spread across more and more sites. If the wisdom of crowds counts for something (and I believe it does, of course), then how big and active does the crowd have to be before it becomes wise?

On GU, the editor decides what goes on the front. But actually, it’s not one editor, it’s a team of editors, sharing stories, discussing them, making a case for them. These editors are making decisions in the way editors always have, based on their skill and judgement, and based on their understanding of the Guardian’s editorial priorities and what the Guardian stands for. But unlike traditional print editors, they are also in possession of two key additional feedback loops: they hear from users all the time via email, and they have real-time stats on what people are using. These two things inform their editorial choices. The relative weight the editor gives two their own judgement and external feedback is different from editor to editor, of course. But the feedback is there.

All of which is a long-winded introduction to the core question: are 50 digg users more “representative” of the 140,000 digg users? Or is a group of GU editors more representative of the GU community? In my more militant moments I’ve often wondered how GU would look if we handed over the front page to the 12 million unique monthly users - would it be more reflective of the community, or less? Isn’t it probable that, actually, all that would appear on the front page would be stories around issues on which people tend to hold “extreme” positions, so they are prepared to work harder to force those issues to the fore?

I don’t know the answer, but I do know my instinct. My instinct is that everything we do to “edit” the site seeks to keep a balance between editorial instinct and the desires of the audience, and that, in doing that, we may be reflecting the “community” more fairly, both mathematically and ethically, than the likes of digg.

Posted: 1/17/2006 in:

10 Comments

  1. Jornalismo participativo - mas quantos são?
    Lloyd Shepherd, vice-director das publicações digitais do Guardian, acaba de escrever um post com base na seguinte ideia: se partirmos da percepção de que num site como, por exemplo, o Digg, os votos de 50 dos seus cerca de 140…

    Trackback by A t r i u m - media e cidadania — 1/17/2006 @ 4:02 pm

  2. […] — @ 9:16 am

    No classes today, but a series of meetings. Posting may be light: 50 users v 1 editor. Lloyd Shepherd practices heresy in a pst you need to read […]

    Pingback by Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media » Tuesday squibs — 1/18/2006 @ 5:43 am

  3. Heretical! Also possibly true.

    Random thoughts:

    When I used to edit a newspaper, I used to tell folks I had 40,000 readers, all of whom had a different idea of what a newspaper should be. (Part of the process of deciding what went where was also the reporters, who were the folks out on the street.)

    I find digg’s noise-to-signal ratio (at least for my interests) high. I’m watching Newsvine to see if their mix of “editors” makes more sense.

    Much of what I learn about the emerging mediascape comes from bloggers, many of them riffing on what many others have written. I consider those folks my trusted editors, a concept I’m convinced will be a central part of wherever we land in the near future.

    Cheers.

    Comment by Mark — 1/18/2006 @ 6:40 am

  4. […] d Shepherd from the Guardian Unlimited team wrote an interesting piece the other day about editing by audience consensus, in the context of Digg. For thos […]

    Pingback by Simon Dickson » Letting readers edit the news — 1/18/2006 @ 9:43 am

  5. I think its useful to get some perspective and remind ourselves (or, ahem, our more devotional and geeky friends) that Digg’s not some kind of hive-mind or collective intelligence, nor does it necessarily exhibit any particular wisdom as yet.

    But it is a lot of fun, it is a radically new way of sorting news and I’m not sure that the small numbers involved in voting stories on to the site have any bearing on its potential as a model.

    Comment by Antony Mayfield — 1/18/2006 @ 9:20 pm

  6. […] n’t be the former — but not so fast. Lloyd Shepherd of Guardian Unlimited uses a critique of Digg to raise some interesting questions about the micro-gatekeep […]

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  7. Read/WriteWeb Daily
    Aggregating and filtering the latest Web Tech and Media news, so you don’t have to! (p.s. thanks for the encouraginng comments about this new daily feature - I’m trying out a new name…) - Out with old media; in with……

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  8. Sociala sökmotorer: framtid eller dyr historia?
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  9. The Wisconsin State Journal now allows people to vote online and choose a story that will be on the front page of the paper the next day.

    Comment by Brian Cubbison — 1/25/2006 @ 10:21 pm

  10. […] define the new publishing industry. I remain deeply skeptical that pure technology or the wisdom of the masses (i.e. Digg, Reddit) can serve this function alone. (Memeor […]

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